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their killers thought no one would care. but everyone is somebody's somebody. these are not the faces of the forgotten. >> larry: tonight janet jackson is here with a new look. >> shedding all the old skin. >> larry: a new book and a challenging new film role. >> if you call to say you're sorry, you call somebody else. >> larry: has she abandoned singing for acting? >> i'm finally getting around to doing something that i have wanted to do since i was a kid.
>> larry: janet jackson for the hour next on "larry king live." janet jackson returns to "larry king live." ms. jackson if you're nasty. she's a grammy winning singer, author of a forthcoming book "true you". her new movie is "for colored girls." she stars in the tyler perry film which opening tomorrow. it's her third collaboration with perry, watch. >> just last week my ex-old man came in saying, baby, i don't know how she got your number, i'm sorry. >> no, no, this is it. oh, baby, you know i was high, i'm sorry. >> i'm only human. if we were perfect, we wouldn't have nothing to strive for, so
you might as well go on and forgive me because i'm sorry. >> this one is it. i do you like i do you because i thought you could take it. no? i'm sorry. >> now i know you know i love you. but i ain't going to love you the way you want me to love you. >> larry: it opens tomorrow "for colored girls" how did this move come about? >> i like that giggle that you just did. >> larry: you like my giggle? kind of a turn on, huh? >> you've got a lot of nerve. how did this come about for me? >> larry: yes. >> when i was shooting "why did i get married 2" we were at the tail end of shooting it and there was a production of "for colored girls" in atlanta and tyler wanted me to see the play with him. we went to the play and i really enjoyed it and he said, you know, they want me -- they have ask me to direct and write this
for the big screen. i said oh, my gosh, are you going to do it? he said i'm thinking about it. so i brought you because i'm thinking of -- i would like for you to be a part of this. and i said oh, this is why we came? he said why else would you think i wanted you to see this play with me? i said i thought two friends hanging out, having a good time. >> larry: by the way, janet jackson has a hit album out called "the bests of." you can get that anywhere. you play joe, tell me about her. >> joe, joanna bradshaw, she's a very successful woman, she comes from the ghetto where the rest of the girls reside. she has worked really hard to make her way out of that. she's very shrewd. >> larry: she's the most successful of the group? >> she is the most successful
and will do anything to stay out of that life, she wants no part of it whatsoever. she's really shrewd, bold, her color is red. she's very fierce and she has no room for niceties. she's kind of a bitch. >> larry: you like her or not like her? >> i like her very much. >> larry: is this a comedy? >> not at all. everyone's been talking about how intense it is. >> larry: when you saw the play, did you think of yourself as j?e
>> no, i was just enjoying watching these women who did an incredible job. no, i didn't at all. i didn't see my -- >> larry: so when he said he wanted you for it, did you think jo would be the part? >> i didn't know what he -- what part he wanted me to play, so when he actually called me up and said the script is coming along and he told me a little bit about my character. i thought this is really interesting, this is really different from anything i have ever done and i thought, wow, this is going to be a challenge. and when i actually read the script, i thought, wow, this is really cool. so i was up for the challenge. >> larry: what was it like doing it? >> i loved it, it was intense. it was very, very different from anything. like i said, she's no b.s., she has no room for niceties so every single day of shooting was tough. it was really tough and especially what she's going through with her husband, her home life and as well as her relationship with herself. >> larry: it's interesting because you were born janet demita jo jackson. so now you're jo again? >> actually her original name in
the script, tyler called her carmen. and i wanted to change her name to jo. i thought carmen was a little too sweet. and her full name, joanna, but just to call her jo, that toughness, she has a tough edge. >> larry: when you say you're red in this, what do you mean you're red? >> each woman has a color. each woman has a color that represents their personality, their character. my color happens to be red which gives a little insight into who i am. loretta divine, her color is green. all of the women are wonderful, just wonderful. so every woman has their color that represents to a certain degree who they are. >> larry: what's tyler perry like to work for?
you have had him as a guest? >> he's wonderful. i -- i enjoy working with tyler. there's a sense of -- even though with this, it was a little different, because it was so intense on a daily basis. but still i enjoyed being there every day coming to work. >> how do you think it will do commercially? >> well, i hope. it's getting great word about it. >> it is, it's getting a great word of mouth and i hope it does well. i think it will do well. i think this movie's not just for colored -- women of color. it's for all of us, all walks of life. i think you will find as a woman a part of yourself or someone you used to be or someone you
know in one of these women. there's a couple of women that i see the old me in. >> larry: how about men, will men like it? >> i think they will for sure, there's a lot for them to learn. it's not just about women but it's also the relationship. whether it's their husbands, boyfriends, men that they're -- >> larry: semiinvolved with. >> there's a lot, it's really a great story in the way tyler has infused his words with the poet, with her work, because this was an award winning broadway play back in the '70s. >> larry: janet jackson is our special guest, the movie opens tomorrow, it's called "to colored girls." don't go away. ♪ at dow we understand the difference between innovation and invention. invention is important.
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i'm going to put a sign on the door, better yet, i'm going to leave a voicemail, a message on my voicemail, if you're calling to say you're sorry, then call somebody else. i have had sorry greet me at the front door, you can keep yours. >> kerry washington is in it, felicia rashaad is in it, our friend whoopie goldberg, but you said you didn't interact with him a lot off the set. why not. >> staying in character. >> larry: you go, you did that? >> really wanting to stay in character during the duration, every moment even. like i said, she wants nothing to do with the ghetto and her
past life, she worked too hard to get out of that. so i would hear the girls you know cackling and talking and a part of me wanted to be a part of that. but to remain true to the character, i stayed away. >> larry: so when you stay in character, as many great actors have told me they do that, did you also bring it home? >> there are times when you do, you don't just walk away from it. every time one of my friends would say, you know, there's something different about you, the tone in your voice. tyler actually wanted to play it with my tone in post and make it a little bit lower tone and i told him let me try it, first on my own and let me see what happens. so he liked what i did so he just left it at that. >> larry: you like acting? >> i love it. >> larry: why? >> this is my first passion.
>> larry: more than singing? >> this is what i signed up to do as a kid, this was my first job, when i was 10 years old. singing is my second job. >> larry: dancing is third, we were a great couple. >> we have got our moves. this is what i did. this is what i originally did and this is what i -- i knew for sure i wanted to grow up and go to school, study business law, study acting and become an actress. >> larry: so what veered off, how did the singing come? >> my father. and you know, it's the family business, he told me that he wanted me to sing, so. >> larry: so he said it and you had to do it? >> for the most part. i'm not complaining, it's been wonderful for me and i really enjoy it. >> larry: you still sing? >> yes, it's in my blood. but this is, i'm finally getting around to doing something that i have wanted to do since i was a kid, making songs.
>> larry: so you want to do more of this? >> yes, i do. >> larry: do you want to do a play? >> i want to do a broadway play, an award winning broadway play. >> larry: at the moment are you touring? >> no, i might do a little private thing here or there, but going on a tour, no. >> larry: what about with your brothers? your sister? >> no. >> larry: so janet goes her own way? can i say that? >> i guess so. >> larry: all right, in a recent jet magazine article, you said that in the past, you have not had a lot of friends. is that a correct quote? >> i don't have a lot of friends. >> larry: why? >> it's not easy in this industry and i'm glad i don't have a lot of friends. >> larry: is there a trust issue?
>> it's very much a trust issue, i'm happy with the people that i have around me and they have been friends of mine since i was young, for a very long time. >> larry: so new people don't come into janet jackson's life easily? >> not really. it's definitely a trust issue for myself. >> larry: we'll be back with more, janet's got a new book coming too. we'll talk about that ahead. ♪ ♪ even if i have to cut it myself ♪ ♪ i'm gonna get my hair cut ♪ even if i have to cut it myself ♪ ♪ but it makes me out of breath ♪ ♪ when you say ♪ ♪ love is a game -♪ a game for two -[ ring ] ♪ love is a game i want to play with you ♪ [ female announcer ] introducing the dell streak 5 pocket tablet exclusively at dell.com and best buy.
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it ain't just sex, honey, it all as a root and you got to find that root to pluck it. i used to be you. >> larry: we're back with janet jackson, "for colored girls" which opens as they say wide tomorrow. with all your talents, your achievements, your celebrity, the fact that it's hard for you to make new friends, do you think you intimidate people? >> you know, there's a line in the song "all for you" that talks about intimidation, and when i was at the time dating guys, wanting to approach me but
not approaching me and me inviting them to approach me, but it's that intimidation that will always get in the way. i have been told that a lot. >> larry: do you date now? >> i'm actually seeing someone. >> larry: can you tell us about it? >> no. >> larry: he's a very private man. so i respect that. >> larry: i will ask, is he in the business? >> no. >> larry: is it any easier, the fact that he's not? >> easier? >> larry: the fact that you're not clashing. >> i'm enjoying the fact that he's not in the business. but i don't know if it makes things easier. >> larry: okay, going back to music, some of your fans and i have heard this, ask me today in fact, have you abandoned music? >> no, not at all. >> larry: let's straighten this out. you will sing? >> just because i have made a few films back to back, it's
always been a dream of mine to do something like this so i kind of put music on the back burner to do this. and i will continue to do most of them, but definitely, i can't give up music, it's in my blood and so i will make more music. i have thought i may go into the studio, take my time, fool around next year. >> larry: how about a musical film? >> i would love to do that. >> larry: combine both. >> i would love to do that. there's a lot of things that i love to do and that i'm going to do. >> larry: i bet when you saw dream girls, you thought i could have played in that. >> i enjoyed that a great deal. never saw it on broadway. >> larry: okay you have written a book called "true you." it's due out in january. >> yes. >> larry: the title. explain that. >> "true you." people have ask me about the
weight loss, the weight gain. the workout regimen, the nutrition and they'instead of wg just about that, i wanted to go back to the beginning about what brought all of that on and that took me back to my childhood and i had self-esteem issues and it's not an autobiography. but there are little anecdotes throughout my life, beginning from my childhood until now. and it allows you to see what may have caused, telling my little stories. my dream is to really not appeal to adults. but to appeal to children as well as teens, and hopefully they will relate to one of my stories or i have stories as well of fans that have written to me. and hope any they can relate to
one of my stories and it will be able to help them. >> larry: is it designed to kind of help people? >> it's a self-help book, it's about being who you are and learning to love yourself as you are the true you. >> larry: you had an early weight problem? >> yes, i did. it was a body image issue. i was so self-conscious at a very -- >> larry: you didn't like yourself? >> and i was told certain things, i'm too this, i'm too that, i should be more like this, more like that, at a very, very young age. when i did "good times" i was 13 years old and they never discussed with me ahead of time. but one of the wardrobe women, she bound my chest because i was developing at a very young age. and they thought i was a guess a little too big for my age. so that immediately translated to me that i wasn't good enough the way that i was. so it's little things like that
that really goes back to -- >> larry: did you have it all through your teenaged years? >> yes, i did. it wasn't until i opened up and spoke to someone who i really felt that i could communicate with, that would not judge me that i could truly trust that my life began to change and that was much later on in my life. >> larry: was that a doctor? >> no. he wants to remain anonymous. and i have spoken about him before, i call him a cowboy. >> larry: still in your life? >> yes, we still talk. >> larry: janet is involved in a new anti-bullying campaign. she'll tell us why she supports the cause. stick around, don't go away. . [ man #2 ] i worked with people from all over the world. [ man ] today you can see that you're part of something much larger.
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happening in her life. there's always something happens in janet jackson's life. how do you feel about your body now when you look in the mirror? are you happy with janet? >> i'm a work in progress, i still have my days when i'm not the greatest and i have my moments where i feel really, really good. so it's still a work in progress. >> larry: you don't feel overweight, though, do you? >> no, i don't, but i can definitely tighten things up for sure. >> larry: you described your new short hairstyle as liberating. i like it, but why is it liberating? >> it's like shedding all the old skin. it's not the first time i have cut all of my hair off. i have done it several times before. but it's the first time i have done it since the whole internet craze so everyone made a big to do really about my cutting my hair. it was liberating, it was freeing.
and it's easy. >> larry: you did it yourself? no one side do it? >> did someone tell me to do it? no, i have been wanting to do it for a while. i get bored with my hair. people think it's for this project or that project. but it's really me getting bored with my hair. when i was a kid, i would get bored with my hair i would walk around with pink hair or blue hair. >> larry: you are an interesting person. you say of all the jacksons, you're the most complicated? >> the most rebellious. myself and my brother randy. the babies of the family. >> larry: two babies? >> yeah. >> larry: are the most rebellious? >> i would say so. >> larry: does the family accept this? your dad and your mom? >> they're so tired. to the point, you have nine kids, by the time the babies come around, it's like go ahead. >> larry: is it true this is a very honest book? >> yes.
>> larry: is that hard sometimes to write? >> there were a lot of things that i actually had dealt with already, and i thought, okay. >> larry: let it out? >> i'm over that. it's easy to talk about, it's easy to write about, but when i started to write about certain things that i hadn't spoken about in a while, feelings started to resurface and i said to myself, oh, there's still something there that is connecting very deeply with me and emotions started to flow a little bit. so it was very therapeutic. >> larry: a catharsis? do you keep a diary? >> no. >> larry: a personal journal? >> my albums have been my diaries. >> larry: we know in the word of show business sometimes too much
too soon has a long lasting affect. and a lot of kid stars are never heard from again. how do you think you avoided that? because you got a lot of attention as a kid, it's got to play something with your head. >> i was really, really fortunate. i think it has a lot to do with who you surround yourself with, your upbringing, how grounded your parents make sure you continue to be or are. from day one and continuing that all the way up into your adult hood and that goes a long way. and your faith in god, having that as a foundation as well, i think all of that is the reason why i didn't get into any drama and i'm thankful, i'm very fortunate. >> larry: were you ever tempted? >> no. >> larry: never did? never got into that scene? >> no. >> larry: more with miss jackson after this. i'm don legal lemon, here
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>> i'm trying, i'm trying. >> i know. >> larry: all right, tell me about the it gets better campaign, which i understand supporting gay youth. what got you involved? >> i first heard about the trevor project years ago from a makeup art who became a beautiful friend of mine who's no longer around me, rest in peace, kevin kline, and he always supported them and he always told me about this organization. and i wanted to get involved. being one of those kids who could truly relate, holding everything inside, like i was telling you, internalizing everything. and that really can affect you. in feeling helpless and hopeless and finding that person that you can trust, that adult like i did later on in life, that i felt comfortable and safe to tell my
issues, my worries, my pains, my aches to. this is what the trevor project is all about and they have a 24-hour hot line. >> larry: it's for bullying, right? >> definitely, especially with what's been going on just recently, what has happened. it's sad. they have a 24-hour hot line. the number is 866-for-you-trevor. and they have a website, the trevor project.org and there's someone there you can speak with 24 hours that will be there for you. >> larry: we did a whole program about bullying, about the trevor project. i know you have studied it. you've looked into it. were you ever bullied? >> no. >> larry: do you understand why people bully? >> i think it really says more about themselves, how they feel about themselves.
there's something about themselves, i feel, that doesn't set right, something they hate, they dislike, issues at home with their parents. who knows what it is? but it's something going on inside of them and i think it's them lashing out. >> larry: it must be terrible to have a -- to be gay and hold it in, be afraid. >> not be able to be true you. >> larry: yeah. >> no, really. to be proud of who you are, everyone should be, you should never hide your true self-. >> larry: but it comes from teaching, doesn't it? we're taught to hate. >> yes, we're not born that way. and that's so unfortunate, that adults teach us to hate. it's sad. >> larry: that's the trevor project, right? >> yes, the trevor project. >> larry: give me the number again.
>> it's 866-for-you-trevor. a 24-hour hot line, there will always be someone for you to talk to. someone to just open up and tell, just everything, you can pour out to. >> larry: by the way, if you're a bully, or if you have those tendencies, you can call too? >> yes, of course. >> larry: they'll try to help you in every way. >> of course. >> larry: you have a greatest hits cd out called janet jackson number one icon. how do you feel about that title? it's a little self-crediting, isn't it? did you title that album? >> no, i didn't title it. no, i didn't title that. there was one before this that was just called janet jackson number ones and it had all 33 number ones and the new single, a bonus track that wound up becoming a number one so there was 34 in all. >> larry: you have had 34 number ones? >> yes.
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>> larry: one of the number one hits on janet jackson icon is nothing. it's from tyler perry's film "buy did i get married 2" in which she starred. watch. ♪ there's something i want to say ♪ ♪ something i have been holding back ♪ can't let it go another day ♪ ♪ nothing nothing nothing means more than the truth ♪ and the truth is that i realized love is fading from your eyes ♪ ♪ don't know how we came to this ♪ ♪ but we can get it back
♪ because nothing nothing nothing nothing is worth losing you ♪ >> larry: there's talk that could be an oscar, huh? >> it would be nice. >> larry: would you sing it on the awards show. >> i don't think they do that anymore. >> larry: you're right. you wrote that song. >> i wrote that with jimmy dupre, yes. >> larry: does writing come easily to you? >> for the most part, yes. i remember when i was a kid. i started writing when i was 9 years old. i wrote my very first song when i was 9. >> larry: what was it called? >> fantasy is the title. i remember being a kid, my brother randy, my brother mike and myself, we would have our chores to do, after dinner especially, i remember one night in particular, i was doing dishes, i think mike was sweeping the floor and randy was cleaning off the tables and the
counter tops, that's how we would always create music, we would come up with melodies and we would add lyrics to them and we would sing a three-part harmony. we were very young. but it's good practice. >> larry: where did this new song come from? >> nothing? >> larry: uh-huh. >> from the movie. i had ask tyler if he had a theme song for the movie and he said no. i told him i would like to give it a go if he wouldn't mind. i viewed it twice with jimmy and jimmy and i went into his studio and we created these and presented it to tyler. i didn't know if he would like it or not. i was hoping he would. and he loved it. it was really from the characters in the film. >> larry: it fits the film? >> perfectly. >> larry: because sometimes you'll see songs that don't even pertain to the film. >> no, this was written for the film and watching those characters. >> larry: we're not going to dwell on this, this is too much
a part of a sad past. you said you learned of michael's death when you were filming in atlanta for tyler perry's other movie "why i got married 2 jshsz you said cussing on work helped you through grief. how? >> i hadn't stard shooting just yet. but i was supposed to start in a few days and i was at home in new york when i learned of my brother's passing. >> larry: how did you learn? >> i got a call and there was something on tv. on cnn. >> larry: you never get through that. >> no. >> larry: you said in a recent interview, you spent a lot of time feeling lonely, even when you have people around you all the time. can you explain that? lonely in a crowd? >> that was the worst for me. there's nothing worse than being lonely and having people around you, especially people that you
love, people that you need to be involved with. it was very, very sad for me. and i'm not going to say anything more about that, larry, than that. >> larry: no, no, no. you work hard, though, don't you? you're working like all the time? >> i enjoy working. i love to work. i love to keep busy. don't get me wrong, i love my little down time too, i love being on an island and a get away or being with my family or being with that person that i spend my life with and just relaxing by the ocean, by the beach. >> larry: do you miss marriage? you were married once? >> i was married twice. >> larry: do you miss it? >> is there something you're trying to ask me? >> larry: what do you mean? >> no, i'm just joking. >> larry: not again? you have heard janet admit to
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>> that other discipline, my mind went ding, ding, ding, and i think it would be so much fun to perform on a daily basis. it seems like it would be so much fun, to perform on a daily basis. that's a whole other grind than i am used to. >> larry: what music do you listen to? >> all kinds. my favorite is what i grew up on that was my love. >> larry: stan goetz. >> yeah.
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because i work like crazy, i mean i watch here and there, but i enjoy it. when i do watch, i always enjoy it. >> larry: i am told, i knew this lady, this great lady that you would like to do a film, the life of bertha kits? there was no one like her. >> i had the opportunity of getting to know her just before she passed. we were getting to know one another. and i wanted to spend some more time with her and she performed at carnegie and she had a performance in september of that year and i wanted to go and it just so happened that something came up and i had to work and i couldn't make it. and i still love her. >> larry: she remained sexy late in life. >> and how, the way she
performed that night when i saw her. she blew me away. >> larry: she was incredible. >> she was amazing. >> larry: you said you're proud you remained true to yourself. but that self also changes. have you been true to every change? >> i have tried to be. i mean we evolve, as life goes on, we get older. and i have tried to keep that, keep that truth within me always. >> larry: do you think there's something hard about being a jackson? >> it has its pros and it's cons. and i think that's with anything, with anyone. >> larry: yeah, but it's a label too, right?